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Beginner's guide to BAT and browser Brave

Beginner's guide to BAT and browser Brave
At first glance, the connection between the BAT (Basic Attention Token) and the browser Brave is only that both of these projects belong to the field of advertising.

On closer inspection, they have much more in common.

Users can use bat tokens through Brave to support websites. At the same time, both projects are created fully integrated with each other.

Having dealt with this, it is necessary to understand what both projects are.

Brave browser is designed to give users more privacy when browsing.

It blocks trackers and banners (which get information about visitors without their knowledge, and sometimes introduce malicious software).

In General, the browser protects everyone who uses it without any additional effort on the part of the person.

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Why created BAT and Brave?


The development team behind this project drew attention to the fact that the digital marketing market is full of trackers, outright scammers and intermediaries.

And the advertisers are losing money, publishers are suffering and people just use.

According to the project developers, about 50% of the average user's mobile resources are spent on trackers and advertising, increasing monthly costs by about 23USD.

In addition, advertising banners reduce battery life by 21% and take about 5 seconds to load.

In addition, all this violates the consumer's right to privacy. There are about 70 trackers on major media sites. The number of malware increased by 132% in just one year.

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As for webmasters, the current system works very poorly. Google and Facebook are taking about 99% growth and 73% of the money from advertising. The BAT website also cites statistics that revenue has recently decreased by 66%, and bots have allowed scammers to get 7.2 billion us dollars in the last year alone. All this has led to the fact that more than 600 million computers and mobile devices today use ad blockers, which also reduce the income of webmasters.
Finally, advertisers lose money due to lack of information. They suffer from poor targeting, which affects ROI performance. In addition, they can cheat on fake websites.
How to operate the BAT and Brave?
Brave is an open source browser. The main goal is privacy, as well as blocking trackers and malicious advertising.

It also uses a special system that anonymously attracts the visitor's attention, allowing webmasters to earn directly.

Bat is a key solution for getting different services through the Brave browser. The token will be used and exchanged between visitors, advertisers and webmasters.

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Here is how the whole process of the browser and the token in the bundle looks like.


Brave "sees" where members spend more time and uses this information to calculate proportional rewards for each webmaster (via bat tokens).

Thanks to this approach, transparency and efficiency of digital advertising in the blockchain network are achieved.

For full-fledged work, Brave studies attention of visitors anonymously. This information is then used to reward webmasters with BAT tokens. Users ' personal information remains on their devices, which guarantees complete confidentiality. Also, visitors themselves are encouraged. Improved targeting allows advertisers to know what their money is being spent on and get a higher ROI.
How Bat and Brave help visitors, webmasters and advertisers
People can use the Brave browser and say goodbye to annoying ads as well as malware or choose fewer ads but which will suit their interests.

In this case, the risks of malware penetration on your computer or mobile device are reduced.


Webmasters receive more income, as the risks of fraud are reduced, and the number of intermediaries is reduced.

Finally. Advertisers get more accurate data on what they spend their money on.

All consumers have a higher level of privacy.

The risks of ad fraud are minimized through improved client-side integration, transparency and cryptography.
How Brave measures attention
A key aspect of this whole project is the measurement of user attention.


All this happens in real time when users are viewing content and advertising in the active browser window.

Each ad has its own rating based on the duration in proportion to the amount of relevant content before the user is directly interested in the ad.


As the system grows, it will be able to identify additional anonymous CPA nature models. Based on this information, ads will be selected based on the interests of users using special local machine learning algorithms. Because of this, the benefit the user will have.

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Brave plans to work closely with webmasters and advertisers to develop the most effective approach to measuring user activity.

Possible metrics include ratings based on how long you've viewed or used the total number of times your ad has been viewed over a period of time.
How the BAT exchange happens
The largest number of tokens will go to webmasters as a reward for advertising.

Visitors also receive a number of bytes as a reward for viewing ads.

They can use cryptocurrency to pay for some services or content within the Brave platform.

Advertisers pay baht for placing ads. Users can also donate their baht to webmasters.
How to buy BATTLEFIELD
It is impossible to buy tokens for Fiat money. You need to purchase other currencies. The easiest way to buy baht for bitcoin or Ethereum.


This can be done on the exchange Coinbase via Bank transfer or credit card. After the buyer has purchased bitcoins or Ethereum, he can go to the Finance exchange and buy baht here.
Join on Coinbase
For those who buy cryptocurrency for the first time, it is recommended to use Coinbase exchange.

It offers a simple interface, regulated by the us government. That is, it is one of the safest places to buy cryptocurrency.

Here customers can purchase bitcoin, litecoin, Ethereum using cards or Bank transfer.

It is necessary to pass the verification procedure after registration, as the exchange adheres to all requirements in this area.
Is it possible to use a browser Brave?
It is already available and most of the infrastructure that is needed to connect BAT is already complete.
Conclusion
Using BAT and the Brave browser offers benefits to all stakeholders including users, advertisers and webmasters.

Advertisers can see improvements in campaign results, while publishers receive more revenue from ad units and more motivated users.

As for the latter, they save time spent on loading banners on the page and may not worry about malware threats. These two solutions seem to be ideal for overcoming many of the problems that today really "pollute" the sphere of digital advertising.

Download Brave

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Web Tycoon - economic strategy simulator in IT sphere both for beginners and experts

Web Tycoon - an exciting economic strategy. Easy to understand and useful for those who want to settle in the field of IT, to build an information empire, without risking real capital.

Main features:
- Actually you can’t make it in real life for free - but here you have such an opportunity!
- From Good Old 90s to Modern Times
Start the game when the web industry just began to play. You will be challenged to become a pro.
- Build a Dream Team
Find and hire the best specialists. Work on the most challenging and interesting projects together
- Create Websites
Create your projects and develop them. Post content, attract visitors and earn money from advertising. Or make websites for clients
- Hack Your Competitors
Look for vulnerabilities on websites, spam links, launch and defend against DDoS attacks
- Compete and Win
Take part in competitions with other players. Get to the top of themed and global ratings
- Play in a browser on any device or download it!

But one of the best features is the using AI to create a personal avatar. The ability to upload your photo into the game and immediately get a personal, most similar to you avatar, which no one else has - it is really cool.
It is worth noting that we create avatars from the elements drawn by our designers. And there are several reasons for this.
  1. We want to make avatars in the style of the game.
  2. We take care of you, because it allows you to always get a portrait image, regardless of what the user has downloaded.

How to play:
Your level depends on the update versions of the created sites. You need to select three employees (designer, programmer and coder) for the project and wait for the completion of all their work.
You can hire specialists through the network, acquaintances, employment center, etc. You need to pay a salary, feed them with energy drinks, train and equip them with gadgets to get a skill bonus. The better the spec, the faster he copies with the task and the higher he costs.
Web Tycoon has over several ages:
  1. the birth of the Internet
  2. dotcom milestone
  3. web 2.0
  4. milestone of social networks
  5. modernity
For example, at level 15 you will cross over the second age, and at 50 - to the modernity.
The higher the level, the more opportunities open to the player. Traffic, profits, the number of tools to influence the market and options for interaction with other players are growing.

The game has 2 types of currency - bitcoins and dollars. You should understand when and how to use them, and you will always have enough resources to solve current problems.

Web Tycoon is an interesting webmaster activity simulator. The game is gambling due to the ratings and very informative, especially for beginners who are far from the IT sphere.

Website: https://web-tycoon.com/en
GooglePlay: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ukit.group.webtycoon
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The Next Generation Web Miner — Gath3r.io!

Bitcoin, the first ever cryptocurrency, originated with the white paper published in 2008 under the pseudonym ‘Satoshi Nakamoto’. The creators’ original motivation behind Bitcoin was to develop a cash-like payment system that permitted electronic transactions but also included many advantageous characteristics of physical cash, especially during the economic meltdown in the year 2009. A decade later, netizens witnessed a slew of cryptocurrencies like Ethereum, Monero, Zcash, Altcoin, Ripple, and even a Dogecoin! Cryptocurrencies brought a ray of hope along with illegal transactions by those who possessed it.
The fused-in blockchain technology made way for a newfound trust, helping the market capital grow immensely 2016 onwards. A blockchain works as a distributed ledger which allows the flow of information to be transparent and available to all those associated with cryptocurrencies.
Incidentally, the popularity of cryptocurrencies and crypto mining is on a constant rise, at a time when the consumption of social content is highest than ever. Webmasters’ dependence on advertising revenue has also witnessed a steep climb in this environment. However, advertising revenue has taken a hit with the rise of ad-blockers, thus further deteriorating the revenues of website and application owners everywhere.
On top of everything, the companies running the online monetization markets can easily impose their own terms when it comes to payouts and commissions, which are unfairly distributed based on geographic location and regional buying power.
In such a scenario, owners of blogs, websites and even applications are looking forward to a solution that helps them regain the lost revenue or an alternative way of earning in a smarter manner.
Gath3r is a next-gen Web Miner developed to solve websites’ dependence on advertising revenue by offering an alternative form of monetization. Our nonintrusive nature allows for seamless integration without degrading the user experience. One of the unique features that sets Gath3rapart from the completion is our rewards -based system, which incentivizes visitors to browse websites and profit from it. This effectively doubles the target audience and prospective user base.
A new block in the chain or network of Gath3r or any other cryptocurrency can only be enabled with a complex code, called a hash that makes it unprofitable for hackers to attempt to crack the code. Deploying Gath3r’s code on your websites and apps would essentially provide freedom from the dependence of ad-based revenue, while utilizing the unused CPU and GPU computing power of website visitors.
Once hosted on your platform, the code allows website owners to earn Bitcoin based on your users passively mining our cryptocurrency with their unused CPU and GPU computing power. This process is made safe and completely non-obtrusive by Gath3r’s internal security features. Since each user must opt-in to participate, you can let them mine with confidence. The system then rewards the Webmaster with a payout, which can be in tokens, BTC, or when permitted, in cash.
Gath3r’s script is based on a PPLNS rewards system, so Gath3r and the users of the miner share the risks and rewards together. With intentions to continue to develop and expand the brand’s functionality by adding additional features in the future, such as a Paywall Program which will enable webmasters to collect payments in Gath3r’s tokens in lieu of website mining.
Since Gath3r has been developed as an alternative to existing crypto mining scripts that are inefficient and dangerous for both website owners and users, we provide our consumers with transparency, better user experience and considerably lower fees. Gath3r Web Miner is safer, smarter and better. Join in and be a part of the digital monetization revolution at https://Gath3r.io.
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Web Tycoon - economic strategy game for beginners and experts in IT sphere

Web Tycoon - an exciting economic strategy. Easy to understand and useful for those who want to settle in the field of IT, to build an information empire, without risking real capital.

Main features:
- Actually you can’t make it in real life for free - but here you have such an opportunity!
- From Good Old 90s to Modern Times
Start the game when the web industry just began to play. You will be challenged to become a pro.
- Build a Dream Team
Find and hire the best specialists. Work on the most challenging and interesting projects together
- Create Websites
Create your projects and develop them. Post content, attract visitors and earn money from advertising. Or make websites for clients
- Hack Your Competitors
Look for vulnerabilities on websites, spam links, launch and defend against DDoS attacks
- Compete and Win
Take part in competitions with other players. Get to the top of themed and global ratings
- Play in a browser on any device or download it!

https://preview.redd.it/8xcfp74puzu21.png?width=1094&format=png&auto=webp&s=25503d31c58c23f12d9f34186c0a7765d7bb6fff
But one of the best features is the using AI to create a personal avatar. The ability to upload your photo into the game and immediately get a personal, most similar to you avatar, which no one else has - it is really cool.
It is worth noting that we create avatars from the elements drawn by our designers. And there are several reasons for this.
  1. We want to make avatars in the style of the game.
  2. We take care of you, because it allows you to always get a portrait image, regardless of what the user has downloaded.

How to play:
Your level depends on the update versions of the created sites. You need to select three employees (designer, programmer and coder) for the project and wait for the completion of all their work.
You can hire specialists through the network, acquaintances, employment center, etc. You need to pay a salary, feed them with energy drinks, train and equip them with gadgets to get a skill bonus. The better the spec, the faster he copies with the task and the higher he costs.
Web Tycoon has over several ages:
  1. the birth of the Internet
  2. dotcom milestone
  3. web 2.0
  4. milestone of social networks
  5. modernity
For example, at level 15 you will cross over the second age, and at 50 - to the modernity.
The higher the level, the more opportunities open to the player. Traffic, profits, the number of tools to influence the market and options for interaction with other players are growing.
The game has 2 types of currency - bitcoins and dollars. You should understand when and how to use them, and you will always have enough resources to solve current problems.
Web Tycoon is an interesting webmaster activity simulator. The game is gambling due to the ratings and very informative, especially for beginners who are far from the IT sphere.

https://preview.redd.it/3h7fcersuzu21.png?width=1112&format=png&auto=webp&s=20c86f42a6f936bb3f2616d3eebc4827b6e57d4c
Website: https://web-tycoon.com/en
Download Web Tycoon:
AppStore: https://itunes.apple.com/app/web-tycoon/id1450484898?ls=1&mt=8
GooglePlay: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ukit.group.webtycoon
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Web Tycoon - economic strategy game and webmaster simulator

Web Tycoon - economic strategy game and webmaster simulator
Web Tycoon - an exciting economic strategy. Easy to understand and useful for those who want to settle in the field of IT, to build an information empire, without risking real capital.
Main features:
- Actually you can’t make it in real life for free - but here you have such an opportunity!
- From Good Old 90s to Modern Times
Start the game when the web industry just began to play. You will be challenged to become a pro.
- Build a Dream Team
Find and hire the best specialists. Work on the most challenging and interesting projects together
- Create Websites
Create your projects and develop them. Post content, attract visitors and earn money from advertising. Or make websites for clients
- Hack Your Competitors
Look for vulnerabilities on websites, spam links, launch and defend against DDoS attacks
- Compete and Win
Take part in competitions with other players. Get to the top of themed and global ratings
- Play in a browser on any device or download it!
https://preview.redd.it/z239418nd1v21.jpg?width=1094&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74d3f59e26540ac934e14f015d37df1c9a95005c
But one of the best features is the using AI to create a personal avatar. The ability to upload your photo into the game and immediately get a personal, most similar to you avatar, which no one else has - it is really cool.
It is worth noting that we create avatars from the elements drawn by our designers. And there are several reasons for this.
  1. We want to make avatars in the style of the game.
  2. We take care of you, because it allows you to always get a portrait image, regardless of what the user has downloaded.
How to play:
Your level depends on the update versions of the created sites. You need to select three employees (designer, programmer and coder) for the project and wait for the completion of all their work.
You can hire specialists through the network, acquaintances, employment center, etc. You need to pay a salary, feed them with energy drinks, train and equip them with gadgets to get a skill bonus. The better the spec, the faster he copies with the task and the higher he costs.
Web Tycoon has over several ages:
  1. the birth of the Internet
  2. dotcom milestone
  3. web 2.0
  4. milestone of social networks
  5. modernity
For example, at level 15 you will cross over the second age, and at 50 - to the modernity.
The higher the level, the more opportunities open to the player. Traffic, profits, the number of tools to influence the market and options for interaction with other players are growing.
The game has 2 types of currency - bitcoins and dollars. You should understand when and how to use them, and you will always have enough resources to solve current problems.
Web Tycoon is an interesting webmaster activity simulator. The game is gambling due to the ratings and very informative, especially for beginners who are far from the IT sphere.
https://preview.redd.it/vr7paf8qd1v21.jpg?width=1112&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=653828976bdc69b8f2f897cc4d5fe90b091962a2
Website: https://web-tycoon.com/en
Download Web Tycoon:
AppStore: https://itunes.apple.com/app/web-tycoon/id1450484898?ls=1&mt=8
GooglePlay: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ukit.group.webtycoon
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Web Tycoon - exciting game and webmaster simulator for beginners and experts in IT sphere

Web Tycoon - exciting game and webmaster simulator for beginners and experts in IT sphere
Web Tycoon - an exciting economic strategy. Easy to understand and useful for those who want to settle in the field of IT, to build an information empire, without risking real capital.
Main features:
- Actually you can’t make it in real life for free - but here you have such an opportunity!
- From Good Old 90s to Modern Times
Start the game when the web industry just began to play. You will be challenged to become a pro.
- Build a Dream Team
Find and hire the best specialists. Work on the most challenging and interesting projects together
- Create Websites
Create your projects and develop them. Post content, attract visitors and earn money from advertising. Or make websites for clients
- Hack Your Competitors
Look for vulnerabilities on websites, spam links, launch and defend against DDoS attacks
- Compete and Win
Take part in competitions with other players. Get to the top of themed and global ratings
- Play in a browser on any device or download it!

https://preview.redd.it/16ni085hvzu21.png?width=1094&format=png&auto=webp&s=80315010f51490432b8a0d7b1088db4eb6830d66
But one of the best features is the using AI to create a personal avatar. The ability to upload your photo into the game and immediately get a personal, most similar to you avatar, which no one else has - it is really cool.
It is worth noting that we create avatars from the elements drawn by our designers. And there are several reasons for this.
  1. We want to make avatars in the style of the game.
  2. We take care of you, because it allows you to always get a portrait image, regardless of what the user has downloaded.
How to play:
Your level depends on the update versions of the created sites. You need to select three employees (designer, programmer and coder) for the project and wait for the completion of all their work.
You can hire specialists through the network, acquaintances, employment center, etc. You need to pay a salary, feed them with energy drinks, train and equip them with gadgets to get a skill bonus. The better the spec, the faster he copies with the task and the higher he costs.
Web Tycoon has over several ages:
  1. the birth of the Internet
  2. dotcom milestone
  3. web 2.0
  4. milestone of social networks
  5. modernity
For example, at level 15 you will cross over the second age, and at 50 - to the modernity.
The higher the level, the more opportunities open to the player. Traffic, profits, the number of tools to influence the market and options for interaction with other players are growing.
The game has 2 types of currency - bitcoins and dollars. You should understand when and how to use them, and you will always have enough resources to solve current problems.
Web Tycoon is an interesting webmaster activity simulator. The game is gambling due to the ratings and very informative, especially for beginners who are far from the IT sphere.

https://preview.redd.it/djxt2drfvzu21.png?width=1112&format=png&auto=webp&s=d3440886ca2a9f3a9a7234df497b6706c7ff7390
Website: https://web-tycoon.com/en
Download Web Tycoon:
AppStore: https://itunes.apple.com/app/web-tycoon/id1450484898?ls=1&mt=8
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The innovative approach of HOQU to combatting fraud and shaving in CPA marketing

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The problem of fraud in the CPA (cost per action) marketing model, namely the problem of fraud and shaving practices, is always present to some extent. Overpayment or, on the contrary, underpayment to network participants sometimes can reach up to 30–50%, and, in some cases, may even exceed those figures. Because of this, many advertisers avoid promotion on the CPA model, which, to some extent, is an option, since it allows exclusion of fraud. However, by refraining from “gray” traffic, the advertiser loses qualitative advantages, as in comparison with other types of marketing, the CPA approach outperforms many outdated models.

The problem of fraud

Fraud consists of the use of applications created by unscrupulous users involved on CPA networks. Partners can visit sites themselves and place orders. They can also use “gray” schemes to obtain personal client data and transmit it to the advertiser as self-attracted customers. Another popular method in case of paid call schemes is making use of in-house staff to make calls, imitating new clients. Fraudsters are the primary problem of advertisers. Because of fraudulent traffic, they incur significant losses, which, incidentally, applies to partner networks, especially if it is a self-respecting network that, if found fraudulent, returns to the advertiser the balance paid to the fraudulent partner.
On the part of partner networks, fraud is also possible. It can be an indication to advertisers of an excessive number of leads or the inconspicuous write-off of money from the accounts of advertisers.
The problem of fraud, in fact, is very voluminous. According to a study conducted by AppLif and Forensiq, specializing in mobile development, up to 34% of mobile device advertisement displays are suspicious. Of these, 22% were estimated as fraud. According to the statement of the marketing company Videology, the use of unscrupulous bots by publishers to simulate client actions brought damage in the years 2015 and 2016 in the amount of $6.3 and $7.3 billion, respectively. Artificially generated machine traffic is a significant problem for the industry. The Incapsula content delivery network recorded that 51.8% of transitions to sites on the network were made by robots.
Fraudulent orders are detected in the following ways. The simplest and, at the same time, most highly effective way is repeated calling, during which the majority of false clients either do not answer or confuse personal data upon answering. Also, different sorts of scoring scripts work quite effectively. Coincidental telephone numbers, IP addresses, information about the devices of clients, all can be traced and analyzed. Also, it is necessary to cross check information with a unified client database, which stores data on clients who do not purchase orders. The withholding mechanism works effectively — the suspension of payment of remuneration to new, unverified webmasters, until the relevance of the leads given to them is confirmed, but it is extremely frustrating for the advertisers themselves.
Of course, a full list of all the means available for detecting fraudulent activities is not published, as the fraudulent practitioners themselves would be the primary analysts of such information. Thus, a number of antifraud measures should remain secret.

Shaving in CPA Marketing

Each webmaster, in turn, speculates if their commission is paid in full and how accurate the statistics on their orders, which they can see, truly are. Cheating on the part of the network is called shaving, from the English term “to shave”, and, with respect to arbitrage, it means reducing the statistics of the webmaster’s part of the leads or traffic. This phenomenon can reduce up to 30% of the conversions belonging to the webmaster.
Shaving on the advertisers’ part in relation to partners works in the following manners. Informing the partner that the order was not delivered, hence refusing to pay the commission from the purchase of the client. Not picking up the phone, when a customer calls, then determining the number of the client and calling. Modifying the partner network code on a proprietary website so not all of the leads are considered by the system.
On the part of partner networks, the shave is possible by paying off incorrect amounts to the partner for client actions, showing partners underestimated information on leads, or inconspicuous write-offs of funds from partners’ accounts.
It is practically impossible for partners to combat shaving on networks. To prove fraudulent actions, it is necessary to demonstrate statistics. As the statistics are displayed by the network itself, there is nothing to compare it with. Therefore, there is little alternative but to leave the unscrupulous network. Oftentimes, the shave is carried out by a ban of the webmaster under the pretext that it was engaged in fraud, with the appropriation of all the funds earned.
It would seem that the situation resembles a vicious cycle. However, there is a way out. The above-mentioned problems of the advertising industry, the cause of which is the imperfection of classical advertising models and payment methods, make the issue of interaction of its participants the most urgent. Above all else, the issue of trust among all participants rises most prominently.
To reduce the share of low-quality traffic, the advertising industry should evolve according to the model of performance marketing, whose best manifestation today is affiliate marketing. By working on this model, the partners are interested in increasing sales and client leads and they do not have any sense in attracting irrelevant traffic.
At this point, we approach the crucial issue of the article at hand, because the technology in question allows, in principle, to eliminate advertisement fraud in the CPA model.

HOQU expands ideas on cooperation in the advertising field

The HOQU platform, built on the principles of performance marketing and on the basis of blockchain technology, brings partner marketing to a qualitatively new level. The very design of the technology of blockchain and smart contracts makes it possible to integrate into the network automatic control over the “cleanliness” of the actions of its participants with the help of a system of evaluating the reputation they earn there.
The world’s first decentralized marketing platform — HOQU, allows advertisers and partners to work directly, without intermediaries, guaranteeing fair deals on the CPA model using a smart contract. In a smart contract, the conditions for an honest transaction between the advertiser and the partner are laid out plainly, thus the possibility of fraud on both sides is excluded, and payment under the contract is guaranteed.

Anti-fraud system HOQU

Of course, the contract itself cannot physically conduct audit of fraud. Fraud is excluded only due to a single ecosystem, where punishment is provided for any fraudulent activity. Considering that work with most off-sites on the platform is possible only for webmasters with a high level of identification (KYC) and a positive reputation, it is simply unprofitable for webmasters to engage in fraud.
Antifraud protection on the HOQU platform will work as follows. As mentioned, each participant has a reputation in the system, the decentralized accounting of which will be carried out automatically. The reputation will be kept on the blockchain, tied directly to the identified entity. Advertisers will work with partners based on filters that, by default, will not allow cooperation with partners whose reputation is lower than the declared level. Each partner will have account statuses from Tier-1 to Tier-3, where Tier-1 is a registered user, and Tier-3 is a fully verified account that has been fully authenticated with a passport photo, an uploaded a statement bill, an address and other data.
Accordingly, any attempt at fraud, identified by one of the many methods developed on the platform, will reduce the reputation of the user, as a result of which the latter will lose the opportunity to work. In the real world, a person with a criminal record has extremely low chances of finding decent employment, and with repeated conviction this probability is practically reduced to zero.
The same applies to advertisers caught in the deception of webmasters. As soon as the fact becomes known, this advertiser is no longer of interest to partners because of their low reputation.
Reputation on the platform will not be an ordinary scalar value. It will be a complex structure, including various indicators, including those taking into account the experience of the webmaster. Thanks to the technology of the blockchain, the system knows its history for the full duration of cooperation. In addition, warnings and a red flag are possible when the webmaster’s leads can already be audited not only by the advertiser and the network with which the webmaster is working, but also by any appellation center.
That is, the system itself ensures the regulation of fraud issues in HOQU. In this case, the identification of shaving by the CPA networks will become a matter not only possible, but also quite simple as statistics will be recorded and stored on the blockchain, where information cannot be altered or faked.
Also the platform will have built-in, modern anti-fraud tools, including many solutions for standard leads. Applications will be equipped with automatic and semi-automatic anti-fraud modules, and the Marketcall system, another HOQU team proprietary development system, will be used for calls, the first partner network with pay-per call.
In case of conflict situations, when the advertiser and partner accuse each other or cannot reach consensus, the HOQU platform provides for an independent appellate center, where the parties can appeal their issues. Anyone can organize such a center in the framework of the platform, but the registration of such centers on the platform is possible by direct choice of the founders, or by voting of the authoritative platform participants.
Thus, HOQU offers an elegant solution to the main problem of modern marketing, simply making fraud and shaving unnecessary and redundant in a system built on the principles of a fair, decentralized peering market.
HOQU is the world’s first decentralized, blockchain-based marketing platform, which allows merchants and affiliates to interact directly, without brokers and ensures smart contract based CPA deals.
More information about HOQU on official website: http://www.hoqu.io/
The Pre-sale of HOQU is to be conducted on the 13th of November, 2017, which will include an initial investment 40% Bonus. The HOQU token sale is to conducted from the 27th of November to the 26th of December, 2017.
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Why CPA Marketing is in need of blockchain

[OC] The area of ​​CPA (cost per action) marketing has long been in need of revising its working model. The point is that the whole system lacks two important components — openness and trust. If we translate the CPA into a performance marketing track, where a particular confirmed result is placed at the forefront, then all that will be needed to revitalize this promising industry is to find the right tool using which only one option of cooperation will be possible — a fair deal.
And this tool has already been invented. It is capable of revolutionizing all areas of society’s life that are amenable to technological modernization, making objectivity a concrete, measurable unit. And it lies in blockchain technology.
What fundamentally new principles does blockchain technology bring to the CPA marketing scheme? To answer this question, we should briefly recall what the technology itself is. As a matter of fact, and literally, it is a “chain of blocks” in which information is recorded, an unchangeable log, where all transactions that have ever been written are transcribed, and these records cannot be falsified or destroyed, since they are not on any particular server, but on all user computers constituent of the network, in other words — distributed.
HOQU is a distributed partner platform, for the first time combining a performance marketing model and blockchain technology. The essence of the project is to create a decentralized ecosystem on the basis of which CPA-services will be created, starting from partner programs, ending with partner networks and related products. HOQU will unite advertisers, networks and partners into a single platform, significantly reducing the financial costs of all market participants.
The mission of HOQU is to make distribution of rewards in the market of affiliate internet marketing more fair and to set new standards of transparency and efficiency from which all fair market participants will benefit.

What is stored on the HOQU blockchain

The HOQU blockchain system records all data of participants in the platform ecosystem. This is the whole array of personal, reputational and other data on partners and advertisers. Also, the unalterable journal of the system records all leads obtained by partners, according to which a calculation is made in a performance marketing system oriented solely at the result — the number of truly interested customers.
The tracking service generates lead data and adds key information about it to the platform through the API or by directly contacting a smart contract. If the advertiser approves the added lead, his account debits the cost of the lead and is sent to the partner minus the platform commission. By approving the lead, the advertiser gets access to key information of the lead and can get its full data (using the tracking service or unpacking the lead data with a key).

Combatting fraud

The decentralized approach of HOQU unites all participants of the platform in a common ecosystem, which allows one to keep a record of the reputation that affects access to offers. The system gains a considerable advantage from the fact that within the framework of the platform, fraud as such, inevitably, comes to naught with time and is rendered unprofitable.
Of course, fraud (unscrupulous execution of contract terms) is always theoretically possible. To combat this, the platform provides a reputation ranking system. Thanks to it, fraud will never work more than once within the platform framework. And thanks to the quality scoring system, no matter how many accounts the fraudster tries to allocate on the platform, the system will automatically determine who it is, and will assign the corresponding reputational ranking earned, which is safely stored on the blockchain and is directly assigned to the identified entity.
Thus, the smart contract acts as the anti-fraud guarantee mechanism. The contract is primarily responsible for the transparent distribution of commissions, and stores only the data that affects the amount of payment. The contract itself cannot physically conduct an audit of leads on fraud. Fraud is excluded only due to a single ecosystem, where punishment is provided for any fraudulent activity.
If webmasters are accused or caught involved in fraudulent activities, they will not be able to work with good advertisers any longer, because they will have a barrier to work with similar webmasters by default. Given that working with most offers on the platform is available only to webmasters with a high level of identification and a positive reputation, it is simply not profitable for them to engage in fraud.

Advantages of blockchain for webmasters and advertisers

The greatest advantage for webmasters is that they can work from one dashboard with any networks they want. HOQU will allow using hundreds of networks and choosing the most favorable conditions for each. In addition, an added advantage for a webmaster will be the ability to have instant access to earned funds.
For affiliate networks, the advantage will be the lack of costs that they incur when paying out. This is achieved through the use of internal platform currency, the proprietary token HQX — the only possible unit of calculation for services within the platform, which can be used for paying for effective marketing.

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The Strange Birth & History of Monero, Part III: Decentralized team

You can read here part I (by americanpegaus). This is the post that motivated me to make the part II. Now i'm doing a third part, and there'll be a final 4th part. This is probably too much but i wasn't able to make it shorter. Some will be interested in going through all them, and maybe someone is even willing to make a summary of the whole serie :D.
Monero - an anonymous coin based on CryptoNote technology
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.0
Comentarios de interés:
-4: "No change, this is just a renaming. In the future, the binaries will have to be changed, as well as some URL, but that's all. By the way, this very account (monero) is shared by several user and is meant to make it easier to change the OP in case of vacancy of the OP. This idea of a shared OP comes from Karmacoin.
Some more things to come:
"
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6362672#msg6362672)
-5: “Before this thread is too big, I would like to state that a bug has been identified in the emission curve and we are currently in the process of fixing it (me, TFT, and smooth). Currently coins are emitted at double the rate that was intended. We will correct this in the future, likely by bitshifting values of outputs before a certain height, and then correcting 1 min blocks to 2 min blocks. The changes proposed will be published to a Monero Improvement Protocol on github.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6363016#msg6363016)
[tacotime make public the bug in the emission curve: token creation is currently 2 times what was intended to be, see this chart BTC vs the actual XMR curve, as it was and it is now, vs the curve that was initially planned in yellow see chart]
-14: “Moving discussion to more relevant thread, previous found here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=578192.msg6364026#msg6364026
I have to say that I am surprised that such an idea [halving current balances and then changing block target to 2 min with same block reward to solve the emission curve issue] is even being countenanced - there are several obvious arguments against it.
Perception - what kind of uproar would happen if this was tried on a more established coin? How can users be expected to trust a coin where it is perceived that the devs are able and willing to "dip" into people's wallets to solve problems?
Technically - people are trying to suggest that this will make no difference since it applies to reward and supply, which might be fair enough if the cap was halved also, but it isn't. People's holdings in the coin are being halved, however it is dressed up.
Market price - How can introducing uncertainty in the contents of people's wallets possibly help market price? I may well be making a fool of myself here, but I have never heard of such a fix before, unless you had savings in a Cypriot bank - has this ever been done for another coin?”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364174#msg6364174)
-15: “You make good points but unfortunately conflicting statements were made and it isn't possible to stick to them all. It was said that this coin had a mining reward schedule similar to bitcoin. In fact it is twice as fast as intended, even even a bit more than twice as fast as bitcoin.
If you acquired your coins on the basis of the advertised reward schedule, you would be disappointed, and rightfully so, as more coins come to into existence more quickly than you were led to believe.
To simply ignore that aspect of the bug is highly problematic. Every solution may be highly problematic, but the one being proposed was agreed as being the least bad by most of the major stakeholders. Maybe it will still not work, this coin will collapse, and there will need to be a relaunch, in which case all your coins will likely be worthless. I hope that doesn't happen.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364242#msg6364242)
[smooth tries to justify his proposal to solve the emission curve issue: halve every current balance and change block target to 2 min with same block reward]
-16: “This coin wasn't working as advertised. It was supposed to be mined slowly like BTC but under the current emission schedule, 39% would be mined by the first year and 86% by the fourth year. Those targets have been moved out by a factor of 2, i.e. 86% mined by year 8, which is more like BTC's 75% by year 8. So the cap has been moved out much further into the future, constraining present and near-term supply, which is what determines the price.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364257#msg6364257)
[eizh supports smooth’s plan]
-20: “So long as the process is fair and transparent it makes no difference what the number is... n or n/2 is the same relative value so long as the /2 is applied to everyone. Correcting this now will avoid people accusing the coin of a favourable premine for people who mined in the first week.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364338#msg6364338)
[random user supporting smooth’s idea]
-21: “Why not a reduction in block reward of slightly more than half to bring it into line with the proposed graph? That would avoid all sorts of perceptual problems, would not upset present coin holders and be barely noticeable to future miners since less than one percent of coins have been mined so far, the alteration would be very small?”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364348#msg6364348)
-22: “Because that still turns into a pre-mine or instamine where a few people got twice as many coins as everyone else in the first week.
This was always a bug, and should be treated as such.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364370#msg6364370)
[smooth wants to be sure they can’t be stigmatized as “premine”]
-23: “No, not true [answering to "it makes no difference what the number is... n or n/2 is the same relative value so long as the /2 is applied to everyone"]. Your share of the 18,000,000 coins is being halved - rightly or wrongly.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364382#msg6364382)
[good point made by a user that is battling “hard” with smooth and his proposal]
-28: “+1 for halving all coins in circulation. Would they completely disappear? What would the process be?”
-31: “I will wait for the next coin based on CryptoNote. Many people, including myself, avoided BMR because TFT released without accepting input from anyone (afaik). I pm'ed TFT 8 days before launch to help and didn't get response until after launch. Based on posting within the thread, I bet there were other people. Now the broken code gets "fixed" by taking away coins.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364531#msg6364531)
-32: “What you say is true, and I can't blame anyone from simply dropping this coin and wanting a complete fresh start instead. On the other hand, this coin is still gaining in popularity and is already getting close to bytecoin in hash rate, while avoiding its ninja premine. There is a lot done right here, and definitely a few mistakes.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364574#msg6364574)
[smooth stands for the project legitimacy despite the bugs]
-37: “Since everything is scaled and retroactive, the only person to be affected is... me. Tongue Because I bought BMR with BTC, priced it with incorrect information, and my share relative to the eventual maximum has been halved. Oh well. The rest merely mined coins that never should have been mined. The "taking away coins" isn't a symptom of the fix: it's the fundamental thing that needed fixing. The result is more egalitarian and follows the original intention. Software is always a work-in-progress. Waiting for something ideal at launch is pretty hopeless. edit: Let me point out that most top cryptocurrencies today were released before KGW and other new difficulty retargeting algorithms became widespread. Consequently they had massive instamines on the first day, even favorites in good standing like LTC. Here the early miners are voluntarily reducing their eventual stake for the sake of fairness. How cool is that?”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6364886#msg6364886)
[this is eizh supporting the project too]
-43: “I'm baffled that people are arguing about us making the emission schedule more fair. I'm an early adopter. This halves my money, and it's what I want to do. There's another change that needs to be talked about too: we don't believe that microscopic levels of inflation achieved at 9 or 10 years will secure a proof-of-work network. In fact, there's a vast amount of evidence from DogeCoin and InfiniteCoin that it will not. So, we'd like to fix reward when it goes between 0.25 - 1.00 coins. To do so, we need to further bitshift values to decrease the supply under 264-1 atomic units to accommodate this. Again, this hurts early adopters (like me), but is designed to ensure the correct operation of the chain in the long run. It's less than a week old, and if we're going to hardfork in economic changes that make sense we should do it now. We're real devs turning monero into the coin it should have been, and our active commitment should be nothing but good news. Fuck the pump and dumps, we're here to create something with value that people can use.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6366134#msg6366134)
[tacotime brings to the public for first time the tail emission proposal and writes what is my favourite sentence of the whole monero history: “Fuck the pump and dumps, we're here to create something with value that people can use”]
-51: “I think this is the right attitude. Like you I stand to "lose" from this decision in having my early mining halved, but I welcome it. Given how scammy the average coin launch is, I think maximizing fairness for everyone is the right move. Combining a fair distribution with the innovation of Cryptonote tech could be what differentiates Monero from other coins.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6366346#msg6366346)
-59: “Hello! It is very good that you've created this thread. I'm ok about renaming. But I can't agree with any protocol changes based only on decisions made by bitcointalk.org people. This is because not all miners are continiously reading forum. Any decision about protocol changes are to be made by hashpower-based voting. From my side I will agree on such a decision only if more than 50% of miners will agree. Without even such a simple majority from miners such changes are meaningless. In case of hardfork that isn't supported by majority of miners the network will split into two nets with low-power fork and high-power not-forking branches. I don't think that this will be good for anybody. Such a voting is easy to be implemented by setting minor_version of blocks to a specific value and counting decisions made after 1000 of blocks. Do you agree with such a procedure?”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6368478#msg6368478)
[TFT appears after a couple days of inactivity]
-63: “In few days I will publish a code with merged mining support. This code will be turned ON only by voting process from miners. What does it mean:
The same procedure is suitable for all other protocol changes.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6368720#msg6368720)
[And now he is back, TFT is all about merged mining]
-67: “We don't agree that a reverse split amounts to "taking" coins. I also wouldn't agree that a regular forward split would be "giving" coins. It's an exchange of old coins with new coins, with very nearly the exact same value. There is a very slight difference in value due to the way the reward schedule is capped, but that won't be relevant for years or decades. Such a change is entirely reasonable to fix an error in a in coin that has only existed for a week.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6368861#msg6368861)
-68: “There were no error made in this coin but now there is an initiative to make some changes. Changes are always bad and changes destroy participant confidence even in case these changes are looking as useful. We have to be very careful before making any changes in coins”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6368939#msg6368939)
[TFT does not accept the unexpected emission curve as a bug]
-72: “You are wrong TFT. The original announcement described the coin as having a reward curve "close to Bitcoin's original curve" (those are your exact words). The code as implemented has a reward curve that is nothing like bitcoin. It will be 86% mined in 4 years. It will be 98% mined in 8 years. Bitcoin is 50% mined in 4 years, and 75% in 8 years.
With respect TFT, you did the original fork, and you deserve credit for that. But this coin has now gone beyond your initial vision. It isn't just a question of whether miners are on bitcointalk or not.
There is a great team of people who are working hard to make this coin a success, and this team is collaborating regularly through forum posts, IRC, PM and email. And beyond that a community of users who by and large have been very supportive of the efforts we've taken to move this forward.
Also, miners aren't the only stakeholders, and while a miner voting process is great, it isn't the answer to every question. Though I do agree that miners need to be on board with any hard fork to avoid a harmful split.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6369137#msg6369137)
[smooth breaks out publicily for first time against TFT]
-75: “I suppose that merged mining as a possible option is a good idea as soon as nobody is forced to use it. MM is a possibility to accept PoW calculated for some other network. It helps to increase a security of both networks and makes it possible for miners not to choose between two networks if they want both:
Important things to know about MM:
Actually the only change that goes with MM is that we are able to accept PoW from some other net with same hash-function. Each miner can decide his own other net he will merge mine BMR with.
And this is still very secure.
This way I don't see any disadvantage in merged mining. What disadvantages do you see in MM?”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6369255#msg6369255)
[TFT stands for merged mining]
-77: “Merged mining essentially forces people to merge both coins because that is the only economically rational decision. I do not want to support the ninja-premined coin with our hash rate.
Merged mining makes perfect sense for a coin with a very low hash rate, otherwise unable to secure itself effectively. That is the case with coins that merge mine with bitcoin. This coin already has 60% of the hash rate of bytecoin, and has no need to attach itself to another coin and encourage sharing of hash rate between the two. It stands well on its own and will likely eclipse bytecoin very soon.
I want people to make a clear choice between the fair launched coin and the ninja-premine that was already 80% mined before it was made public. Given such a choice I believe most will just choose this coin. Letting them choose both allows bytecoin to free ride on what we are doing here. Let the ninja-preminers go their own way.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6369386#msg6369386)
[smooth again]
-85: “One of you is saying that there was no mistake in the emission formula, while the other is. I'm not asking which I should believe . . I'm asking for a way to verify this”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6369874#msg6369874)
[those that have not been paying attention to the soap opera since the beginning do not understand anything at all]
-86: “The quote I posted "close to Bitcoin's original curve" is from the original announcement here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563821.0
I think there was also some discussion on the thread about it being desirable to do that.
At one point in that discussion, I suggested increasing the denominator by a factor of 4, which is what ended up being done, but I also suggested retaining the block target at 2 minutes, which was not done. The effect of making one change without the other is to double the emission rate from something close to bitcoin to something much faster (see chart a few pages back on this thread).”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6369935#msg6369935)
[smooth answers just a few minutes later]
-92: “I'm happy the Bitmonero attracts so much interest.
I'm not happy that some people want to destroy it.
Here is a simple a clear statement about plans: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582670
We have two kind of stakeholders we have respect: miders and coin owners.
Before any protocol changes we will ask miners for agreement. No changes without explicit agreement of miners is possible.
We will never take away or discount any coins that are already emitted. This is the way we respect coin owners.
All other issues can be discussed, proposed and voted for. I understand that there are other opinions. All decisions that aren't supported in this coin can be introduced in any new coin. It's ok to start a new fork. It's not ok to try to destroy an existsing network.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6370324#msg6370324)
[TFT is kinda upset – he can see how the community is “somehow” taking over]
-94: “Sounds like there's probably going to be another fork then. Sigh.
I guess it will take a few tries to get this coin right.
The problem with not adjusting existing coins is that it make this a premine/instamine. If the emission schedule is changed but not as a bug fix, then earlier miners got an unfair advantage over everyone else. Certainly there are coins with premines and instamines, but there's a huge stigma and such a coin will never achieve the level of success we see for this coin. This was carefully discussed during the team meeting, which was announced a day ahead of time, and everyone with any visible involvement with the coin, you included, was invited. It is unfortunate you couldn't make it to that meeting TFT.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6370411#msg6370411)
[smooth is desperate due to TFT lack of interest in collaboration, and he publicly speaks about an scission for first time]
-115: “Very rough website online, monero.cc (in case you asked, the domain name was voted on IRC, like the crypto name and its code). Webdesigner, webmaster, writers... wanted.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6374702#msg6374702)
[Even though the lack of consensus and the obvious chaos, the community keeps going on: Monero already has his own site]
-152: “Here's one idea on fixing the emissions without adjusting coin balances.
We temporarily reduce the emission rate to half of the new target for as long as it takes for the total emission from 0 to match the new curve. Thus there will be a temporary period when mining is very slow, and during that period there was a premine.
But once that period is compete, from the perspective of new adopters, there was no premine -- the total amount of coins emitted is exactly what the slow curve says it should be (and the average rate since genesis is almost the same as the rate at which they are mining, for the first year or so at least).
This means the mining rewards will be very low for a while (if done now then roughly two weeks), and may not attract many new miners. However, I think there enough of us early adopters (and even some new adopters who are willing to make a temporary sacrifice) who want to see this coin succeed to carry it through this period.
The sooner this is done the shorter the catch up period needs to be.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6378032#msg6378032)
[smooth makes a proposal to solve the “emission curve bug” without changing users balances and without favoring the early miners]
-182: “We have added a poll in the freenode IRC room "Poll #2: "Emission future of Monero, please vote!!" started by stickh3ad. Options: #1: "Keep emission like now"; #2: "Keep emission but change blocktime and final reward"; #3: "Keep emission but change blocktime"; #4: "Keep emission but change final reward"; #5: "Change emission"; #6: "Change emission and block time"; #7: "Change emission and block time and final reward"
Right now everyone is voting for #4, including me.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6379518#msg6379518)
[tacotime announces an ongoing votation on IRC]
-184: “ change emission: need to bitshift old values on the network or double values after a certain block. controversial. not sure if necessary. can be difficult to implement. keep emission: straightforward, we don't keep change emission or block time. change final reward is simple. if (blockSubsidy < finalSubsidy) return finalSubsidy; else return blockSubsidy;”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6379562#msg6379562)
-188: “Yeah, well. We need to change the front page to reflect this if we can all agree on it.
We should post the emissions curve and the height and value that subsidy will be locked in to.
In my opinion this is the least disruptive thing we can do at the moment, and should ensure that the fork continues to be mineable and secure in about 8 years time without relying on fees to secure it (which I think you agree is a bad idea).”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6379871#msg6379871)
[tacotime]
-190: “I don't think the proposed reward curve is bad by any means. I do think it is bad to change the overall intent of a coin's structure and being close to bitcoins reward curve was a bit part of the intent of this coin. It was launched in response to the observation that bytecoin was 80% mined in less than two years (too fast) and also that it was ninja premined, with a stated goal that the new coin have a reward curve close to bitcoin.
At this point I'm pretty much willing to throw in the towel on this launch:
  1. No GUI
  2. No web site
  3. Botched reward curve (at least botched relative to stated intent)
  4. No pool (and people who are enthusiastically trying to mine having trouble getting any blocks; some of them have probably given up and moved on).
  5. No effective team behind it at launch
  6. No Mac binaries (I don't think this is all that big a deal, but its another nail)
I thought this could be fixed but with all the confusion and lack of clear direction or any consistent vision, now I'm not so sure.
I also believe that merged mining is basically a disaster for this coin, and is probably being quietly promoted by the ninjas holding 80% of bytecoin, because they know it keeps their coin from being left behind, and by virtue of first mover advantage, probably relegates any successors to effective irrelevance (like namecoin, etc.).
We can do better. It's probably time to just do better.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6380065#msg6380065)
[smooth is disappointed]
-191: “The website does exist now, it's just not particularly informative yet. :) But, I agree that thankful_for_today has severely mislead everyone by stating the emission was "close to Bitcoin's" (if he's denying that /2 rather than /4 emission schedule was unintentional, as he seems to be). I'm also against BCN merge mining. It works against the goal of overtaking BCN and if that's not a goal, I don't know what we're even doing here. I'll dedicate my meagre mining to voting against that.
That said, you yourself have previously outlined why relaunches and further clones fail. I'd rather stick with this one and fix it.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6380235#msg6380235)
[eizh tries to keep smooth on board]
-196: “BCN is still growing as well. It is up to 1.2 million now. If merged mining happens, (almost) everyone will just mine both. The difficulty on this coin will jump up to match BCN (in fact both will likely go higher since the hash rate will be combined) and again it is an instamine situation. (Those here the first week get the benefit of easy non-merged mining, everyone else does not.) Comments were made on this thread about this not being yet another pump-and-dump alt. I think that could have been the case, but sadly, I don't really believe that it is.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6380778#msg6380778)
-198: “There's no point in fragmenting talent. If you don't think merge mining is a good idea, I'd prefer we just not add it to the code.
Bitcoin had no web site or GUI either initially. Bitcoin-QT was the third Bitcoin client.
If people want a pool, they can make one. There's no point in centralizing the network when it's just began, though. Surely you must feel this way.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6381866#msg6381866)
[tacotime also wants smooth on board]
-201: “My personal opinion is that I will abandon the fork if merge mining is added. And then we can discuss a new fork. Until then I don't think Monero will be taken over by another fork.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6381970#msg6381970)
[tacotime opens the season: if merged mining is implemented, he will leave the ship]
-203: “Ditto on this. If the intention wasn't to provide a clearweb launched alternative to BCN, then I don't see a reason for this fork to exist. BCN is competition and miners should make a choice.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6382097#msg6382097)
[eizh supports tacotime]
-204: “+1 Even at the expense of how much I already "invested" in this coin.”
(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582080.msg6382177#msg6382177)
[NoodleDoodle is also against merged mining]
This is basically everything worth reading in this thread. This thread was created in the wrong category, and its short life of about 2 days was pretty interesting. Merged mining was rejected and it ended up with the inactivity of TFT for +7 days and the creation of a new github repo the 30th of April. It is only 12 days since launch and a decentralized team is being built.
Basically the community had forked (but not the chain) and it was evolving and moving forward to its still unclear future.
These are the main takeaways of this thread:
  • The legitimacy of the "leaders" of the community is proven when they proposed and supported the idea of halving the balances for the greater good to solve the emission curve issue without any possible instamine accusation. Also their long-term goals and values rejecting merged-mining with a "primined scam"
  • It is decided that, as for now, it is “too late” to change the emission curve, and finally monero will mint 50% of its coin in ~1.3 years (bitcoin did it after 3.66 years) and 86% of its coins in 4 years (bitcoin does it in ~11 years) (was also voted here) (see also this chart)
  • It is decided that a “minimum subsidy” or “tail emission” to incentivize miners “forever” and avoid scaling fees will be added (it will be finally added to the code march 2015)
  • Merged mining is plainly rejected by the future “core team” and soon rejected by "everyone". This will trigger TFT inactivity.
  • The future “core team” is somehow being formed in a decentralized way: tacotime, eizh, NoodleDoodle, smooth and many others
And the most important. All this (and what is coming soon) is a proof of the decentralization of Monero. Probably comparable to Bitcoin first days. This is not a company building a for-profit project (even if on the paper it is not for-profit), this a group of disconnected individuals sharing a goal and working together to reach it.
Soon will be following a final part where i'll collect the bitcointalk logs in the current official announcement threads. There you'll be able to follow the decentralized first steps of develoment (open source pool, miner optimizations and exchanges, all surrounded by fud trolls, lots of excitmen and a rapidly growing collaborative community.
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Bitcoin super-team creates MASS: a blockchain-based solution to online advertising

(Press release)
Consumers are fed up with irrelevant and obtrusive ads, and the use of ad-blockers has become prevalent. As a result, data-tracking for businesses and ad agencies has become nearly useless, threatening the entire online advertising business model. The industry’s current solution is an arms race of anti-blockers versus anti-anti-blockers, and in some cases even risky alliances with the ad-blockers themselves. This inefficient counter-productivity leads to lots of wasted resources, and an inevitable dead-end.
To solve this problem, the ad industry and blockchain experts have combined efforts to create The Mass Network —a blockchain-based solution aimed at restoring the balance of power between the online advertising industry, and internet users who unwittingly provide that advertising industry its revenue source: data. Mass users are supported by contributions from Colu, which provides the asset protocol, and Mycelium, which provides the wallet component. Two other top Bitcoin giants are also in talks about how they can best contribute to Mass.
Mass proposes to replace this wasteful battle for what would otherwise be mutually beneficial proactive commerce, by creating a blockchain-based marketplace for consumers, webmasters, and data management platforms, where the industry pays a fair, market-determined rate to users for their data and attention. This voluntarily provided user information, exchanged for compensation, presents truly valuable data to the industry. Especially when compared to the current ill-gotten and often misinterpreted data harvested automatically by websites.
To power this network, and to create a more stable method of exchange, Mass will release Mass Coin to the public via a one-time only offering. Once live, internet users of this the system will be paid Mass Coin in exchange for watching ads and browsing sites that are part of the Mass Network. Mass Coin lives on the Bitcoin blockchain, and will have the same transparency, fluidity, and security of Bitcoin without the dramatic price volatility.
Mass paves the way to monetizing our everyday online experience, while improving the consumer's relationship with brands and publishers, and making advertising more efficient to the benefit of all parties involved. In a world where people's lives are becoming more and more digitized, Mass provides a safeguard from exploitation by improving access, integrity, and trust.
To learn more please visit https://MASS.network
(Note: this is a project that is the result of a collaboration between many companies, which Mycelium is proud to be a part of, and is not a Mycelium owned service)
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[Table] IAMA Gravitas Recordings - A music label and creative collective - Ask Us Anything

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Date: 2013-06-11
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How did you manage to pick up Cryptex? Great question. This was the inception of Gravitas and tells a really great story of how close the bass music community is. I found Tyler Chase, Cryptex, on The Glitch Hop Forum which was started by Dewey DB and run by ill-esha and a few other glitch hop OGs. Cryptex had posted some of his first reglitches on the site and I ended up playing a few when I opened for Skrillex and PantyRaid at the Austin Music Hall. I posted that mix back to the forum and we ended up chatting over instant messenger about his music and our philosophy on music.
What's the philosophy behind your "free music" practice? The philosophy behind releasing almost all our music for free came from a conversation I had with edIT in 2010. Basically, he said, I know some people are going to download our music for free, some are going to buy it from iTunes and some are going to want to buy a shirt, record and CD of the album. It hit me that what all the artists and myself wanted was for as many people as possible to hear the music. Rather than asking people to buy the tunes and see if they liked it, why not give it to them for free and if they enjoy it, they'll likely donate on the next go around.
What goes into your decision to pick up an artist and/or release for Gravitas? Is it a sound, a type of artist? Something else? Also a great question.
The short answer, we know it when we hear it.
Long answer, it all happens very organically. The music scene and business is really just a bunch of personal connections and friendships. Having a crew of talented DJs and producers helps so much. We are always sharing music, checking out each others mixes, doing A+R, and looking for the next dope sound or producer. Myself, Psymbionic, ONE4ALL, Galvanix, Jason Torres, and The Digital Connection review demos.
In the end, I make the final decision because I personally invest money into each release that comes out.
Our goal is for the label to be something like a Ninja Tune or Warp Records. Less of a genre or sound and more of an esthetic.
Is the money for mastering and advertising? Artwork.
Mastering.
Promo Email to artists, blogs, and friends.
Email Marketing to fans.
Marketing / Promotions.
There's a lot of over-saturation in the industry, particularly among social media. How does this impact your social media presence and marketing campaigns, and which ways have you found most effective in reaching your fans and potential fans? Of course, we have a social media presence, but really, our focus is building our email list so that we can have a direct connection with the people that want our music. Email isn't going to go away and isn't a trend. It may change over time, but pretty much everyone I know checks their email at least once a day.
Facebook and twitter are more for a conversation. We don't want that to be our sole means of promotion. We want those channels to be funny, interesting and list, in a smart way, the most important events that we are involved in.
Can you tell us about how releasing most of your catalogue free is working out for you business-wise, and what went into making that decision? Thanks! Answered this question a bit already but I'll give you some more details. We're finding that the "Pay What You Want" model is absolutely brilliant. Of course, the music has to be good and it really helps if the artist has a solid fan base. Since it's "free", people don't feel bad about sharing the music and we don't have to spend a bunch of time, money and energy trying to lock it up. For anyone on our email list, which is something that we've worked really hard to grow, they will get pushed to our bandcamp and get the music for free.
We still send our tunes to iTunes, Beatport and all the rest of the digital retailers. We want the music to be ubiquitous. But with the retailers taking anywhere from 30-50%, it's just makes better sense to take donations from Bandcamp at 10-15%.
Overall, Gravitas is making money and most of the artists that have had releases with us have nothing but good things to say and have seen their bookings increase because of the exposure.
Do yall have some big studio where I could come hang and puff? Sure, let's puff tough at some point soon.
What happens at Flipside, stays at Flipside ;). Saw you bring the heat at Lava Lounge! Things got sufficiently weird! Lol. I've seen some truly bizarre things at Flipside. LOVE IT!
Really love what you guys have going down there. MAD respect on the home bass love and respect. 'Gravitas Fest' perhaps ;) ?? Im pretty sure pple would come!! :) I can say enough about The Do Lab and what they have created. They are one my big inspirations. The true spirit of events like Burning Man and Burning Flipside (Austin's regional burn) are really important. Participation vs. Spectator. Being a part of something is so much more fun and rewarding then paying $80 to walk up to stage and watch a real life movie.
If we were to do anything like that, it would be way more participation based then a typical festival.
You should do something like the Mad Decent block party. One day! We've still got a lot of work to do before we get there.
Maybe if I produce MIA's new album and have a worldwide hit, everyone follows my every move on twitter and I do a blackberry commercial, then we can do it.
Where do you think Glitch-Hop is headed in the future? It seems to have stayed underground for the most part with only a few artists getting major recognition. With the downslide of dubstep, do you think Glitch will be able to find a wider audience and compete with explosive movements like trap or do you think it will remain in it's niche? The lines are really blurring for me. We're definitely not 100% glitch hop label. A lot of us love that sound but there are parts of the crew that only play house or are all about future beat / drum and bass. We want to avoid getting labeled with any one genre.
To answer your question, I think Glitch Hop will continue to thrive and evolve. Acts like Tipper have cult like followings. I don't think it's going to blow up like trap but I do think it will have a healthy scene around it for a good long time.
Marvel Years! Love your sound man, just curious why you changed your name from Wonder Years...? He's getting online shortly. I can answer this. There was another band called "Wonder Years" and they had the copyright. It would have been a bad situation later down the road so he chose to make the switch before he took off which seems like is about to happen any day now.
Questions for any/all of you: When did you guys start/how long have you been producing? When did you start actually liking your art/getting exactly what you wanted? Advice for new producers? I'm 32, about to be 33, and I've been playing music and working in the industry since I was 15. Honestly, I'm still not happy with my production as I don't dedicate the time to it that I would like to. That said, I have a ton of fun doing all the other parts of the music industry. I think there is a lesson there. There are lots of roles to play if you want to be in the scene or business and maybe don't click as a producer. Also, life is long, you may be a producer or DJ in your twenties and then want to own a studio or do mastering in your 30s and run a label in your 40s.
Yeah man...more originals please! Always like what you put out...you know this. :) Thanks! I'll have a new one on Virtus in Sonus Vol. 2. Comes out on July 2nd.
For Jesse - As CEO at Gravitas, how do you view other crews/groups in the industry? Is your experience more of competition or is there an element of a "co-opetition" or collaboration? I don't think of them as competitors. There is loads of people, ears and music to go around. I think we've carved out a really cool niche for ourselves. I know the owners of labels like Muti, Simplify and Street Ritual. We share knowledge and a lot of artists work with us all. It's crazy what a small scene it really is. I can think of a couple situations where we chose not to do something because we didn't want to step on anyone's toes. We're the new kids on the block and know enough to respect those that came before and to try to set an example for those that come later.
We still going? Integrity Above All Else.
Question for Gravitas - Gravitas is one of the latin virtues. It literally means Importance, Weight and Meaning.
What values is the record label based around? Link to en.wikipedia.org
What's you guys relationship with the bloom series? it's amazing,, have you any plans to collaborate with the project in the future? The Digital Connection is up in Denver and will be playing Sonic Bloom. He's hooked into their scene. We know and respect them and I think you'll see more Gravitas artists there in the coming years. Somatoast would be my bet for the next artist to get their nod.
Jason, i haven't got to see any of your projection mapping stuff yet. Where can I view this? Jason is a BOSS with the visuals. The stuff he was doing during SXSW was truly unreal.
What's with the infatuation with bass these days? Music should not only be heard, but felt. Deep bass tones seem to literally put your mind and body into a specific state.
@Brede, who is the sexiest talent on the roster? Male or Female?
I'd have to say ill-esha is by far the sexiest. :) It's not even about looks either, confidence and talent are what make a person "sexy". Watch this and you will know exactly what I mean: Link to www.youtube.com
My cat is pretty damn sexy too.
On the off chance you return, i have a question. That is awesome that you say that. That is truly where our heads are at. I mentioned this in a few ways already but I want artists that can stand on their own two feet without a label. We come in and back them up with marketing. In return, they bring their fan base to us and the other artists benefit and earn new listeners. It's also, not a demand, but a gentle rule that you will support your fellow artists in their social media and real lives. In that sense, we are a creative collective and crew.
What does it mean for a label in this digital world of downloads and online distribution, when anyone can make their own bandcamp page and release music themselves? In regards to being a brand, yes, that is what Gravitas is. It should speak to you and in some way convey meaning, thought, depth, and integrity. Those are hard things to totally lock down in language but I believe you can hear that in our music. If people even get a whiff of that vibe from us then I'm a happy man.
Do you become more of a form of branding, unifying different artists under one sound? Or is it more like a way to get artists to collaborate and share ideas? In regards to free releases, I'm a student of the Internet. I have worked in tech jobs as an account manager, online and email marketing and webmaster. I love the Internet and there are new models of business that have never existed until the advent of digital media. Files can be shared and copied with a simple mouse click. We're not going to fight that, we're going to take advantage of it. We believe that the free sharing of the music is the first step of any relationship with a potential person / fan / customer. We want you to dig our stuff. We want you to share it. We want to play shows, collaborate, travel and see the world. And we ask that if you like our music, donate to help pay for costs and tell your friends about us.
I'm really curious - because you release so much for free, and it seems to defy the definition of what I thought of as a record label. Thanks for your question. I had a blast answering.
I feel like I'm on the Truman Show. Am I in control of my actions right now? Like I said, this scene is small. We are all connected via social networking and forums in some way. I probably share 2 or 3 friends with you on Facebook or something.
ARE YOU CONTROLLING THIS ENTIRE AMA. And yes, I'm controlling this entire AMA. :)
What festivals will you guys be hanging out at this summer, and will there be a gravitas tent/dome anywhere ever? I'll be at rootwire and gratifly, anyone gonna be there? There is talks of putting together an official artist management and booking agency. Both those ideas need to be separate from Gravitas though for legal reasons and to avoid conflict of interests. That said, the idea is to really back and artist from start to finish. 360 deal for independent artists.
You guys have a great label -- I love your music! I think ZEE's album is my favorite album of the year so far. Mr. Bill, when is the next Electrocado album coming out? (I know it isn't on the Gravitas label but shhh.) ZEE's album was crazy good. More people need to check it out. I'm pretty sure Zebbler is an alien and Encanti is the nicest, realest homie that knows so much about audio and sound design.
How is your management structure set up? i.e. CEO/President, director of A&R, etc... We're really just a group of people who love music. If we had to give titles, I'd be Owner / President, Psymbionic is VP and helps almost everyday with strategy and A+R. Jason Torres handles all things visual. ONE4ALL, Galvanix, Kendall Clark, The Digital Connection, Mike Abb and others help a ton with A+R and promotions. We're a big team and very "flat" as far as structure goes.
Thanks. Is it a full time operation for any of you guys? A few of us are doing music full time. I run Gravitas and another business full time from my house. Others are working day jobs and putting as much time into music as possible. ill-esha gave me some great advice recently about this, you'll know when the time to jump full time into music is. It's scary for sure, but there is nothing else like pursuing your dreams full on.
Agreed. I've just started up a label and have some uneasiness about some future situations, particularly generating revenue for the label to be self sustaining. Definitely hoping to be in a similar position in the future. For sure. When I started Gravitas, I was working full time for a technology company and making a healthy salary. I put a lot of money into each release. I was laid off from my job and we were forced to take a look at the costs and cut back. Honestly, that was the best thing that could have happened.
I'd say this, there is definitely an initial investment needed to get the brand of your label out there. You need to be consistent with quality, especially right at first. Paying an established producer an upfront fee, can help to get the label's name out there more and earn some credibility.
Haha, I'm actually in a eerily similar situation. Glad to hear things are working well for you! I really appreciate the feedback; I've looked to Gravitas multiple times as an example to follow, and I really appreciate you taking the time to do this! For sure, feel free to hit me on twitter or here if you have questions. @jessebrede.
What are your thoughts on G Jones? He's a G.
Why do you insist on making music that everyone wants to practice making babies to? The world needs more smart, talented people. Get busy.
Can I get a free Gravitas t-shirt? We're working on a system to grow money on trees. Until then, shirts cost money to make so, sadly, no.
We will send you some stickers though. Link to gravitasrecordings.com
You guys are in Austin as well, eh? Where are all the glitch hop shows here? That's my question. I see ill-esha/psymbionic comin through on sxsw but that's about the extent of it. We've put on a fair amount of shows. ChrisB, ill-esha, Russ Liquid, Nicoluminous.
We do a monthly every 2nd Wednesday (tonight) at Barcelona. Like our facebook page and get on our newsletter and you should know what the happs is.
What are your main sources of revenue? Giving away music for free doesn't generate much. We all play locally or tour nationally. We've done some paid projection mapping gigs for brands as well. Also,you would be surprised at how much people will donate when given the chance. Rough stats, 1 in 10 people usually donate and when they do it's at least a few bucks and sometimes $20. It's a really interesting psychological experiment.
Anyone catch the Opiuo show in Hollywood? Soulular maybe, he's out in LA. Psymbionic is playing with him this Thursday in Chicago.
When will you start accepting bitcoin? I'm a bitcoin noob. Is this a serious question? I'm down with the idea.
Cryptex is siiick! How long have you been involved with this genre of music? Username fail.
Just wanted to say you guys are my favorite label, not only is the music kickass but the price structure and quality is also top notch; keep doing what you guys do! Thank you, that means a lot to us. All the artists work so hard on their music and truly just want to share it. We love to hear that you are into what we are doing.
The scene in Austin is probably pretty similar to most fairly large cities in the US. Proggy/electro house is the norm for most clubs. I feel like we have a larger than usual bass music collective, most likely due to the college students and burners that reside here. Ill-esha is AMAzing. :) Austin is great. It's a true scene at this point. The city is maturing and so is the scene. Loads of great things happening at this point. Disco Donnie Presents had the scene hostage for a number of years, they kept a lot of smaller promoters out and down while losing tons of money and booking the same 30 djs. Those days are over in Austin. We have several independent promoters that are doing solid shows on the regular. The most unexpected thing to happen was having people respond so positively and for projects to take off. We're in our little bubble so seeing people truly get excited about a Mr. Bill remix contest or ill-esha album puts the biggest fucking smile on my face.
We also have our pockets of drum and bass enthusiasts, dungeon style dubstep, and my personal favorite, UK garage.
I always thought it was to distinguish yourself because whenever I googled wonder years, your music is obviously not the first thing that came up haha. Anyway, thanks for doing this AMA! I am always posting your music in /electrohiphop, /under10k, and /listentothis. I can confirm this. Starkey has mad love for ya.
This dude is absolutely killin' it in the weird GlitchJuke Purp-Fusion realm. Hope he continues to push the boundaries. Thriftworks is on a whole 'nother plane, though. We need more of this sound in Tennessee :[ Thrifworks is on another level. His field recordings and "found sounds" are probably my favorite of anything in that style. Absolute boss status.
Hell yeah. I was so stoked/surprised to hear he was touring with Lorin. But goddamn, there's nothing else like his stuff that I'm aware of. Hyper-dimensional uncertain shroom-hop. The way he processes vocals is untouchable. I believe he studies at Berkely. He's posted some pictures of places where he's working. His process looks so cool.
Psymbionic handles the majority of the mastering for the label and every once and a while I will master something for us. Sugarpill has done a good bit as well.
Lidsky is a friend of mine, and I absolutely love his music. He's pretty new to the label but he is the shit. Yup Yup!
Spoiler alert bro. Whoops.
Dinostep was a project 50 million years in the making, I did not expect to hear any mentions of it in the AMA. I sampled all of the audio from Jurassic Park and chopped up my favorites bits creating a dark journey through the aural landscape of Jurassic Park. Life...finds a way. Link or it didn't happen.
Started in Garage band in 05. Switched to Ableton in 07. Made a lot of terrible terrible music. But I was having fun and that helped me keep at it. Just remember what Ira Glass said: Link to behance.vo.llnwd.net. Absolutely bizarre that you posted this. Our very own, Nikki Hampson, designer of the Gravitas logo and Virtus In Sonus artwork, made that poster. It's for sale in our merch shop. Maybe that's where you got it but doesn't look like it.
Link to music.gravitasrecordings.com
Yeess. I keep forgetting that quote. I need to frame it in... everywhere I go. Get it here: Link to music.gravitasrecordings.com :)
Hit up [email protected] to book him ;) [email protected] please.
Just in case one rips, that is a great idea. I keep a spare in my car as well.
We'll see. That remix really surprised me with how much it took off!! Link to soundcloud.com
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